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Its kinda annoying:
Heinz chooses someone to defend our world of griefers and cheaters and what he gets?
4 people and everyone of them is inactive ..
I mean they were not choosed to be inactive..
We have exactly 10 members who are able to ban and the only guys who are active on the server are Heinz, Kybo and Lenni.
Actually the rank Guard makes no sence.
Because there is no Guard.
This has to change!

My ideas for the Guard rank:

- activity checks ^^ inactive ones should be regarded to make space for new
- should be limited by time, may just for 2months and than heinz have to decide if the guard did a good job
- there should be the possibility for every member who is 3months on the server to aply for Trial-guard
- there should be public votes about guards

have a nice day

The first one is maybe worth talking about, but the rest:

Noctifer wrote: - should be limited by time, may just for 2months and than heinz have to decide if the guard did a good job
- there should be the possibility for every member who is 3months on the server to aply for Trial-guard
- there should be public votes about guards

...is nonsense.
2) Every guard does a good job, he is one of the most trusted persons and there is no need to judge the judges
3)What does trial guard mean at all? like anyone who would apply after three months would be able to ban/kick/jail ppl? No thanks
4)Public can do misstakes, guard is no president to get voted by public. It doesnt really need trust of public but he needs trust of HP because if he makes some mess, public wont fix it, admin will... You can vote for anything you wish, for town residents, best banner for HPCraft, best cration at Freebuild... But i dont think that anybody else than HP will know better who is the most suitable for guard rank.

This is just my opinion but i hope it helps you understanding why may be your ideas good or bad.

kyborek wrote:
4)Public can do misstakes, guard is no president to get voted by public. It doesnt really need trust of public but he needs trust of HP because if he makes some mess, public wont fix it, admin will... You can vote for anything you wish, for town residents, best banner for HPCraft, best cration at Freebuild... But i dont think that anybody else than HP will know better who is the most suitable for guard rank.

Yes trust of hp is most important but even trust of the world players is necessary.
Of cause before someone can be voted he needs Hps trust.

Trialguard is just a period of time where a applicant has to show his mature as guard.

Kybo understand me, I am not the one who want that everyone who has some popuality and 3 months on server can ban. It seems that you think that, you are wrong.
That are just ideas not working rules ..

This topic is normaly useless cause someone is saying to heinz ´do that, and that!` or someone thinks that everythink someone suggest is "rule" and there are no things to discuss ..
This is FOR disscusion not for saying yes and no.

All i said which is "rule" is:

Noctifer wrote:This has to change!

I hope you are with this.

Im for new guards as the spawn for temp was greifed in 2 seconds, what if perrmissions gets bugged and people can destroy anywhere? And the backup gets deleted

And the backup gets deleted

And aliens take over the world, and superman explodes, and sand becomes evil, and trees stop growing fruit, and it starts to rain spaghetti! Do not exaggerate. I mean, of course we would like more guards, but if everyone is a guard, then it looks like a marshal server, where every guest is monitored closely since everyone online is a guard. Guests can make mistakes, that's why they live in the guest world. Members are usually more trust worthy and all. If you are constantly threatening guests with bans, they will just leave. Of course it is frustrating that tmp servers gets greifed constantly, but what do you want, it's a TMP world and should not be taken seriously. It should only be up to HP to chose guards, but I think the public has the right to judge them, although with respect. So yes, I agree with Kybo in large part, but I agree with nocti that we should have our word on how guards perform, and i'd like to mention that so far the guards present right now haven't been active and that they should be replaced, although i do not worry so much since we have active admins, so if you're being greifed, you just need a little post in the official greif reports topic and it will be taken care of FOR YOU, isn't that great? You don't even have to do anything yourself, the admins do the banning and the whatever they do :P. So all i'm saying is that the guard rank is only extra support for admins, not a replacement, if the admins don't think they need support, they won't risk getting support because it gives a great power to whoever they trust, but just because the person is trusted doesn't mean he has good intentions...

Well firstly members may not be trustworthy (its easy to apply) , even though there are some who are true to the server... Any griefer can just apply correctly and grief areas like member-area or towns :/ And I agree with the point that the guards are inactive nowadays. Also having need to post a grief report is sometimes tiring and troublesome if somehow you keep getting griefed -.-" And it is better to prevent griefing than to wait for the grief to happen then report... So in conclusion, maybe there could be replacements of some guards...? (just my opinion)

But what I'm saying is that if no guards are made, we are paying, but the admins are paying more, since we might be unlucky and get greifed, but if we don't well then we have nothing to do, but for every greif, no matter who is greifed, an admin has to go to the scene, inspect the log, rollback the area and ban the player, and that for EVERY GREIF, so if it isn't prevented, who's paying? Not us, we get our stuff back, no, it's the admin's time that's being used, so it is up to admins to make this decision. The reason i'm getting involved is to tell others not to, that's all.

EDIT: Plus davon, i'd like to make a remark about preventing greifing, it's that technically you can't, since to know if a person is a greifer he first has to greif, and if you ban once he's started, it wasn't prevented after all, just ended prematurely, and i'm not sure, but I don't think guards can rollback, so it's again up to an admin to come fix the mess.

Off-topic : Sometimes I wonder why I don't become a writer since i ALWAYS have inspiration and can write very long texts with ease and without having to think much at all since it all seems to come naturally.

Noctifer, since you are an operator of our server,
you could watch around for upcoming guards (and keep an eye on them).

Someone from the american timezones who is able to ban, is necessary.

heinz are you going to do the same thing you did before, like the application thing?